ARB - September 12th 2013
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
Sept 12, 2013
The Architectural Review Board met in regular session on Thurs, Sept 12, 2013 at 7:30 p.m. at the Mayfield Village Civic Center Conference Room. Chairman Dinardo presided.
Present: Mr. Ron Dinardo (Chairman), Mr. Joshua Klein (Chairman Pro-Tem), and Mr. Ivo Tombazzi
Absent: Mrs. MaryAnn Wervey and Mr. Carmen Miozzi
Also Present: Mr. John Marrelli (Building Commissioner) and Ms. Deborah Garbo (Secretary)
CONSIDERATION OF MEETING MINUTES: August 22, 2013
Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Tombazzi made a motion to approve the minutes of Aug 22, 2013.
Ayes: Mr. Dinardo, Mr. Klein, Mr. Tombazzi
Motion Carried. Minutes Approved As Written.
- Canopy – Drive Up Lane
789 SOM Ctr Rd.
Chairman Dinardo called the meeting to order. We have one proposal tonight, canopy for Citizens Bank drive up lane @ 789 SOM Ctr Rd.
Robert Elias introduced himself. My company is All Construction & Remodeling. I’m representing Sterling ATM for Richard Bradford. We’re the installers for these canopies in this area. We’re here tonight for the canopy and replacement of the kiosk to the canopy.
Mr. Marrelli asked, are you calling the ATM Machine a kiosk.
Robert Elias replied no. The existing structure that was there originally is called a kiosk. This is called a canopy what we’d be installing, a 4-post canopy.
Mr. Marrelli asked about the clearance on the underside.
Robert Elias replied 120” of clearance under the new canopy. The old one was 106”.
Mr. Marrelli asked if there’s going to be a sign in case somebody drives up in a tall box van.
Robert Elias replied we don’t normally do that. I’ve never had any incidences. It’s higher than what the older models were.
Mr. Marrelli asked about the clearance from the back of the canopy to the building. They have an overhang already sticking out off the building. How do those two line up?
Robert Elias replied this will all be on the island.
Mr. Marrelli noted that in order for somebody to hit one of these posts, they’d actually have to jump the curb.
Chairman Dinardo asked if the light pole is now gone.
Robert Elias replied yes.
Chairman Dinardo asked if the illumination will be from underneath.
Robert Elias replied the illumination will be from underneath and also to the sides. Robert shows a sample of what the ‘Charter One’ lettering will look like.
Chairman asked if the under soffit lighting is fluorescent LED.
Robert Elias shows a picture via phone of a job done two weeks ago in PA. It illuminates it up really nice. It’s good for security.
Mr. Marrelli asked if it’s lit 24 hours.
Robert Elias said yes. You don’t notice it in the daytime.
Mr. Marrelli said we have an ordinance that lights have to shut down by 11:00 p.m., but this never closes, it’s open 24 hrs. What kind of wattage are you putting in?
Robert Elias replied fluorescent lights equivalent to 54 watt. The picture looks a lot brighter than it really is.
Mr. Marrelli thinks it looks too bright.
Chairman Dinardo said as a Board we can approve it contingent if the lighting is an issue, it’ll need to be toned down.
Robert Elias said we can do that as a stipulation.
Mr. Marrelli asked how the tube lighting inside is configured.
Robert Elias said the tubes inside; we have a tube on each side going all the way around, 4 four-footers. If you didn’t want the lights in the upper part of the canopy, we’d just disconnect them. We wouldn’t go through the trouble of taking the bulbs out. As far as the underneath lighting, we have four 54 watt bulbs, not spots, they look like a normal incandescent bulb, but they’re a fluorescent. It throws light down, it has a lens.
Mr. Marrelli asked, two bulbs in the front and two in the back?
Robert Elias replied yes. Right underneath the canopy where you pull in is where the two lights would be, there are four bulbs, two in each one.
Mr. Marrelli asked about knocking it down to one bulb in each one.
Robert Elias said it wouldn’t light, you need two.
Chairman Dinardo suggests they install as is. If there’s an issue, we have your information.
Mr. Marrelli said our lighting levels are real low there. We had the signs calmed down not to throw light.
Robert Elias said I’m sure you’ll be happy with the downward light portion. As far as the lighting from the sign, you might not enjoy how bright that is. Maybe we can knock that down to one bulb.
Chairman Dinardo states that intersection is wide open. You really see it. We don’t need that blaring out into the street. Let’s go down the route of removing some bulbs in the upper canopy.
Mr. Marrelli asked if the rain pours off the canopy.
Robert Elias replied no, it has a drain. It has a gutter system. It’s a very well built structure. To give you an idea of the weight, we’re looking at about 2500 pounds. The four posts aren’t 16 gauge steel, they’re ¼ to 3/8 inch thick. They’re shipped straight from the factory. They’re tested on wind loads. They’re bolted in the concrete with expansion bolts along with the epoxy. You won’t see the bolts, there’s an aluminum box cover that goes over them.
Mr. Marrelli asked, your Designer can certify the wind load & wind uplift so we don’t have one that takes off on us?
Robert Elias said absolutely. I have specs on everything. Anyone here would have a hard time picking up just one post by themselves. The screws we put in there we coat with paint.
Chairman asked, are you draining this to the back?
Robert Elias replied yes.
CHARTER ONE SIGN
Mr. Marrelli asked if the side panels are replaceable if they get damaged. Do they just slide out?
Robert Elias said they don’t just slide out, there’s a little work to take them out, but yes they’re replaceable.
Mr. Tombazzi asked about the paint, have you had any problem with discoloring on the coating?
Robert Elias has not. First couple locations we did were in the City of Cleveland on W 25th. They’re still the same color. They retain the color really well. It’s a very good coating system.
Mr. Marrelli asked, is there an issue with galvanizing and power coating together?
Robert Elias replied no.
Mr. Tombazzi asked if he’s ever had a problem with the water coming down so close to the unit.
Robert Elias replied no issues at all. There’s a drain hose that comes down that whips away from the unit. The drain hose will go on the inside of the post.
Chairman said the photo shows bollards.
Robert Elias said bollards are gone.
Robert Elias notes that the sign copy will be on all four sides. As far as the sign lighting, it’ll be turned down. We’ll leave only the back one on. Underneath down lighting doesn’t seem to be a concern.
Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Tombazzi made a motion to approve the proposed canopy for Citizens Bank at 789 SOM Center Rd. as noted.
Ayes: Mr. Dinardo, Mr. Klein, Mr. Tombazzi
Motion Carried. Drawings Approved & Signed as Noted.
Electronics – Service Disconnect Box
Mr. Marrelli asked about the electronics. Is this whole thing a UL Listed Component? The signs are required to be UL Listed. The lighting has to be UL Listed.
Robert Elias isn’t sure. To say that the whole unit is UL approved, I don’t know. The fixtures are absolutely UL approved.
Mr. Marrelli said if you have four lights up in that canopy, then each fixture has to be listed and the wiring method inside has to be an approved wiring method, otherwise that whole thing has to be listed like a sign. You can’t have open wires in there.
Robert Elias said there are no opened wires. There are 4 ballasts and 4 light bulbs.
Mr. Marrelli asked about a disconnect.
Chairman Dinardo said you have to power unit that box. How do you pay attention to the concrete, to the base of that? How does the wiring get to it?
Robert Elias replied the wiring is fed through one of the legs. It’s all sealed.
Chairman doesn’t know if there’re any conduits in the existing slab.
Robert Elias said there’s one existing from the previous kiosk. The previous kiosk was lit.
Mr. Marrelli said plus they took the light pole down. There was probably power in there.
Chairman requests they patch the concrete.
Robert Elias said when they took out the previous structure there was patching that needed to be done. It’s already been patched.
Mr. Marrelli asked if they have an Electrical Contractor.
Chairman asked, could you use a breaker from the electric panel as your disconnect?
Mr. Marrelli said there has to be a weatherproof switch somewhere. You can put it on the roof if you want. If someone has to service that thing at 3:00 a.m. if it’s shorting out, he has to be able to drive up to that thing and shut it off.
Robert Elias said if you want to have that done, it’ll be done.
Chairman said it’s not John, it’s the NEC, the National Electric Code.
Robert Elias thinks the best spot for the service disconnect is on the bottom of one of the legs where it’s being fed, at the central location just before it starts to enter into the canopy, in a closable weather type box.
Chairman Dinardo asked about the install date.
Robert Elias replied probably next 30 – 60 days.
There being no further business, Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Tombazzi made a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Motion Carried. Meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.