ARB - December 12th 2013

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
Mayfield
Village
Dec 12, 2013

The Architectural Review Board met in regular session on Thurs, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:30 p.m. at the Mayfield Village Civic Center Conference Room. Chairman Dinardo presided.

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ROLL CALL

Present: Mr. Ron Dinardo (Chairman), Mr. Ivo Tombazzi, Mrs. MaryAnn Wervey, and Mr. Carmen Miozzi

Absent: Mr. Joshua Klein (Chairman Pro-Tem)

Also Present:  Mr. John Marrelli (Building Commissioner) and Ms. Deborah Garbo (Secretary)

CONSIDERATION OF MEETING MINUTES: Sept 26, 2013

Mr. Miozzi, seconded by Mrs. Wervey made a motion to approve the minutes of Sept 26, 2013.

ROLL CALL

Ayes: Mr. Dinardo, Mr. Tombazzi, Mrs. Wervey, Mr. Miozzi                        

Nays: None                                         

Motion Carried. Minutes Approved As Written.

PROPOSALS:

  1. Renovation & Addition
    Edward & Karen Bogomolny
    844 Hardwood Court
    Bialosky & Partners Architects

 

OPEN PORTION:

Chairman Dinardo called the meeting to order asking applicant to explain proposal. 

Jill Christoff Assoc. AIA, NCIDQ with Bialosky & Partners introduced herself. Walking through the site plan, there’s an existing drive. Basically the existing residence is going to stay as is. We’re just adding 60 sq ft to the front entry. The existing foyer that we’re building out will align with the house. The porch will come forward of that, but it all still remains within the setback. There’s an existing walk that’s straight across that will jog to the new porch. Not much change there either. Photos are of the existing tutor style house. We’re keeping within all the existing materials. We’re doing painted cedar to match. The brick will also match. The archway will go away.

Chairman Dinardo notes that we have an enclosure of the entrance in the bottom. The upper portion is what’s existing; the hip roof.

Jill Christoff demonstrates what becomes new. We’re keeping within the same face, but in order to pull it forward we will need to demo and reproduce that. 

Chairman Dinardo asked about the porch roof detail. If there’s anything that sticks out about the whole design, it’s the flat roof on the front entry of this beautiful house. Have you given any consideration on bringing in another material like a metal roof panel? I know it’ll be hard to match 10-15 year old shingles. I’m thinking a slight slope and possibly a different material there, maybe copper, maybe a bronze metal for the roof. It’s too plain and flat.

  • Railing

 

Mr. Marrelli said it almost looks like you should put a railing on that top so it looks like one of those walkouts. 

Jill Christoff said we studied doing a railing on top to give it depth but we felt it was too much with a railing on the top and one on the bottom.

Mr. Marrelli asked why there’s a railing on the bottom. How high is it, 3 steps? You have to be 28” or higher to require a railing. I don’t think you need that railing.

Jill Christoff replied the steps are each 6” high. Ideally, we’d like to get rid of the bottom railing.

Mr. Marrelli suggested Jill check the Residential Code of Ohio for the railing requirement.

Jill Christoff said there’ll definitely be a handrail.

  • Roof

 

Chairman Dinardo goes back to the recommendation of introducing more of a low slope metal roof vs. a flat roof on the porch. You can move the window up.

Jill Christoff said that’s going to be a brand new window. We’re not using the existing. The thing about the slope of the porch, we’re going to have to slope it forward and off to the side because it’ll also be catching some of the water from this existing piece.

Chairman viewing the roof plan notes that’s a hard detail. Does the owner realize that?

Jill Christoff agrees it’s a hard detail and they’re aware we need to do something.

Mr. Marrelli said the water off of that gable’s going to come flooding across the flat roof.

Mr. Miozzi said it’s now going to get trapped in that back corner. You almost have to build a saddle.

Chairman asked the width of the entry now. It’s 13’. Maybe you can make it 11’ and bring this detail across. It’s the detail of how you resolve that corner. The owner’s going through this expense, I don’t think they’re going to want to fight that every winter.

Mr. Marrelli suggested maybe a circle head window.

Jill Christoff replied they like the 3-pane on what’s there now.

Mr. Marrelli said you’re going to have to deal with the water situation somehow.

Chairman said I’d still like to see a low slope of metal roof there. A flat roof looks like it’s not done. You have to understand that’s in 2-dimensions. This thing is sticking out 7’. You’re going to pull up in front of this house and see 7’ of flat roof. 

Jill Christoff said as far as the corner detail, an option would be if we need to go in 6” and create a notch for a downspout.  

Chairman asked when construction will start.

Jill Christoff replied the hope is to go out to BID first of the year.

Mr. Marrelli thinks the easiest way to dress it up is to take the railing off the bottom and put it on top.

Jill Christoff will talk to the owner.

  • Brick

 

Chairman asked, are you able to match the brick foundation for the porch to the building?

Jill Christoff replied, we’ll certainly get it close. We’re not as concerned about an exact match because we have the columns that will separate them being exactly side by side.

Chairman advised Jill they’ll need to be careful where they tie-in.

  • Columns

 

Chairman asked abut the column details. I’m sure there will be more detail with some moldings so it’s not going to be just a box coming down.

Mr. Marrelli asked if they’re pouring the columns or if they’ll be built on site.

Jill Christoff replied they’ll probably build on site, 6 x 6 posts and wrapping. We’d like to keep it simple because the rest of the house is very simple. We had a lot more detail before but we wanted to pare it back to go with the simplicity. We’re staying with the cedar and batten board.

Mr. Miozzi asked, structurally what’s in those columns to support that porch?

Jill Christoff replied, the 6 x 6 posts.

Chairman said you can’t just leave it as a structural column and paint it. Maybe you can show us how you’re going to detail the column. You’re in the right direction. You just have to take care of some details.

Mr. Miozzi said unless they went with a cedar.

Jill Christoff said right, that was the other thing, a 6 x 6 cedar single column.

Discussion ensued on columns, i.e. spacing.

Mr. Marrelli notes all the rest is interior.

  • Shingles

 

Chairman asked if they’ll match the shingles at the top. 

Jill Christoff replied yes. They just re-did the roof a few years back. We have their company.

Mr. Miozzi doesn’t think a copper roof would go with this tutor style.

Mr. Marrelli said the Board can award an approval as noted and discussed contingent upon Jill working out the details with the owner. She can send me the revisions and she doesn’t have to come back.

Jill Christoff appreciates that option.

Recap Items to be worked out:

  1. Add an element to the roof to delineate it from being flat.
  2. Work out detail on north end of front porch connection to the house for roof drainage.
  3. Eliminate railing on porch floor.
  4. Column spacing for the structural element at the front of the porch detail needs to be reviewed, its proportion.
  • Floor Porch & Crawl Space

 

Chairman Dinardo said the floor for this porch, you’re calling this a stone porch, is that the floor? Are you going to form this with concrete and put a stone on top?

Jill Christoff said most likely it’s just going to be stamped concrete. We’re trying to match the feel of the existing stone. We’ll either match it with concrete or do sandstone. It’s going to be pitched enough to run the water.

Chairman said you may need a center support underneath there.  

Mr. Marrelli asked if it’s open underneath.

Jill Christoff replied it’s open but not accessible. It’s ½ basement and ½ crawl space.

Mr. Marrelli asked if the cabin under the porch will be filled with stone.

Mr. Miozzi said it may be cheaper to fill with stone rather than pour concrete. 

Mr. Marrelli agreed. Then you don’t have to try and support that slab. If you need ventilation, you can put a vent in the side of the crawl space and not worry about the one in the front.

Chairman said you can fill this as long as you have access from the basement in.  

Mr. Marrelli agreed. I’d fill that with stone, throw my slab on top, and then if you want to put stone dressing on to make it look nice, that’s fine.

DECISION:

Mr. Miozzi, seconded by Mr. Tombazzi made a motion to approve the proposed renovation and addition for Bogomolny residence at 844 Hardwood Court as noted.

ROLL CALL

Ayes: Mr. Dinardo, Mr. Tombazzi, Mrs. Wervey, Mr. Miozzi   

Nays: None                                       

Motion Carried.
Drawings Signed As Noted.
Architect to Submit Amended Sheet with Revisions as Discussed to Mr. Marrelli for Approval.

OLD BUSINESS:

  • Charter One ATM

 

Chairman Dinardo asked if everyone’s had a chance to look at the new Charter One ATM. I’d like everyone’s opinion on the lighting level. Do any more lamps need to be removed? When I first drove by I thought it was a little bright. I’ve since gotten used to it.

Mr. Marrelli said the lights are down. I haven’t received any complaints. I think it’s o.k.

ADJOURNMENT:

There being no further business, Mr. Miozzi, seconded by Mrs. Wervey made a motion to adjourn the meeting.

ROLL CALL

Ayes: All                                            

Nays: None                                       

Motion Carried. Meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m.