ARB - August 22nd 2013

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
Mayfield
Village
August 22, 2013

 The Architectural Review Board met in Regular Session on Thursday, August 22, 2013 at 7:30 p.m. at the Mayfield Village Civic Center, Main Conference Room.  Chairman Dinardo presided.

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ROLL CALL

Present: Mr. Ron Dinardo (Chairman), Mr. Joshua Klein (Chairman Pro-Tem), Mr. Ivo Tombazzi, and Mr. Carmen Miozzi

Absent: Mrs. Mary Ann Wervey

Also Present: Mr. John Marrelli (Bldg. Commissioner) and Mrs. Mary Betsa (on behalf of Ms. Garbo, Secretary)

CONSIDERATION OF MEETING MINUTES:   July 11, 2013

Mr. Miozzi, seconded by Chairman Dinardo, made a motion to approve the minutes of July 11, 2013 as revised.

Roll Call

Ayes: All
Nays: None

Motion Carried. Minutes approved as revised.

PROPOSALS:

  1. Additions & Alterations (Revisions of 7/11 ARB Mtg)
    Governor’s Village
    280 N Commons Blvd.
    Randall Residence
    C.C. Hodgson Architectural Group

 

OPEN PORTION:

Addition and Alterations
Governor’s Village
280 N Commons Blvd.
Randall Residence
C.C. Hodgson Architectural Group

Chairman Dinardo acknowledged the presence of representative from C.C. Hodgson Architectural Group. They are back here and have resubmitted their drawings.

Mr. Marrelli referred to the laundry list.

Chairman Dinardo asked, the variances they brought to the Board of Zoning Appeals were approved?

Mr. Marrelli confirmed. That’s all done.

Roof Height/Pitch

Ryan McNutt, Project Architect with C.C. Hodgson Architectural Group.  The main issue discussed at the previous meeting was the roof height.  The roof was just about as high as the 2 story building. We wanted to bring that roof line down. We accomplished that in two ways. We took the slope of 6 / 12 and made it 5 / 12.    The bulk of the roof pitches are lower.  Where the gable accent ends, we increased the roof height to 7 /12 to decrease the amount of roof in between the peak of that to the top of the gable.  We have a comparison of what we are left with now versus what we had.  This is the original roof line at 39.5 and now it has gone down to 36.2 which is the variance that has been approved by the Board of Appeals.  We decreased it over 3 feet.

Chairman Dinardo asked, isn’t it amazing how just few little modifications visually makes a difference.

George Gatta, Designer with C.C. Hodgson states, it was actually your suggestion to lower that pitch.  We said we would look at adding some dormers which really didn’t help.  It wasn’t tied in at all. We went ahead and increased the gables.

Front Porch

George Gatta stated there was a concern on how we are tying that addition in the atrium area into the existing.

Ryan McNutt pointed out three options:

  1. Keep it as low as we could and stopped it where addition stopped;
  2. Try to bring the roof over the existing building;
  3. Get rid of the roof and create a parapet with a flat roof behind it.

 

Option 1 is our preferred option.  It creates more roof line and stretches it out further.

George Gatta stated those elevations are working drawings.  That elevation right here is all the way back so the connection is happening back in that area. We don’t want to lose an important connection, even more importantly for snow and all of that, but that’s what we are talking about.  It’s coming up here. That’s hidden by the existing dining room.

Chairman Dinardo referred to sheet A120.  That’s the preferred designed?

Ryan McNutt replied, yes. 

Chairman Dinardo wanted to bring to their attention the snow accumulation in the winter months.  It’s going to pile up here in these valleys where you make the tie in.  All it is a recommendation. 

George Gatta stated, we already have a contractor on board. 

Ryan McNutt confirmed.  He is aware of it.  Another item, when we were doing this, we saw that the elevator was popping through the roof. That created a new drawing that you guys have not seen before.  This ties in to the connection piece.  From this view, this is the extra gable.  If you flip it, you can see on the roof plan where the elevator is gashed in.

George Gatta stated, without the elevator override, it was a flat element sticking out of this lower gable.  We have added that gable.

Ryan McNutt stated, it will tie in to the rest of the building where we had those gables.

Mr. Marrelli asked, doesn’t the elevator have to be in a two hour masonry enclosure?

Ryan McNutt replied, yes.

Mr. Marrelli asked, will the masonry be coming up through the roof?

Ryan McNutt replied, we are capping it with this gable.

Mr. Klein stated it’s capped at the roof.

George Gatta stated, that won’t even be seen.  There’s no two story here.

Chairman Dinardo had requested on the elevations submittal of the partial west elevation.  Let’s talk about where your elevator is.  I was trying to understand the tie in from the roof plan.  It is the west elevation. 

Ryan McNutt stated, I thought you were requesting this elevation right here.

Chairman Dinardo stated, it’s this right in here. What is going on in there?  You have a ridge and then a slope.  Not that it would be seen anywhere.  It’s totally enclosed but I am concerned about how all this works.

Ryan McNutt stated we have a cricket that goes two directions to minimize where it meets into it.  It’s the same condition basically as what is happening on this side.

Mr. Marrelli asked, how are you building something like that?

Chairman Dinardo asked, the ridge you are tying in to, where does it go.

George Gatta replied, it’s tying in behind it. 

Ryan McNutt stated, it’s going to be similar to this. The ridge is going to be straight across and gabled out.

Chairman Dinardo stated, again, you will have your issue of snow.

Mr. Marrelli asked, are you going to have a pocket then?

George Gatta replied, it’s coming down and then it is diverted.  It’s not against the sidewall.

Mr. Marrelli stated, it’s hard to imagine the different kind of angles you are going to have.

Ryan McNutt stated, they will have to reroof this portion if they are going to get a proper tie in.

Chairman Dinardo asked, this is minimally seen?

George Gatta replied, right.

Chairman Dinardo stated, we are good with elevation.  With regard to the porch, it is a standard picket rail?  Black?

Ryan McNutt replied, yes.

Chairman Dinardo asked, aluminum?

Ryan McNutt  replied, yes.

George Gatta replied, we will make it look more in keeping with the building.

Mr. Miozzi asked about brick columns.

Ryan McNutt  replied, you wanted to see it metal.  We would have a metal skin which would tie in to the metal railing with columns out in front to match the stone behind it and the brick just behind it.

Chairman Dinardo stated, the difference is nice.

Mr. Marrelli asked, what’s on the underside?

Ryan McNutt replied, the underside is still going to be developed. This is actually the plan. We will pop a couple lights in it. The seams down here will tie in back to the building.

Mr. Marrelli asked, you have made them shorter and wider?

Ryan McNutt replied, this is the exact size. The color is not what we are going to do.  It will be painted.  This is aluminum. We will paint it to match whether it is on the brick or on the side. The edging and trim are streamlined.

George Gatta replied, we discussed the pros and cons.  We thought this look was preferred.

Ryan McNutt stated, on the existing building, we painted theirs to match the brick and siding. 

Mr. Marrelli stated, from a distance you probably can’t see it.

George Gatta stated, it will look almost fake.

Mr. Marrelli stated, because the color has to match so they blend in.

Trash Enclosure

Chairman Dinardo referred to Landscape Architect’s letter. 

George Gatta referred to the request to relocate the dumpster. We really can’t.  It sits there now.  We did improve it.  The kitchen is there with trash coming out. The rear of our building is actually another property, so we don’t have a rear of this building.

Chairman Dinardo stated, the landscaping helps.

Ryan McNutt stated, for the materials, we are using brick to match the existing building.  Then we have hard vinyl solid doors.  You won’t be able to see through it.

Mr. Miozzi asked, with a metal frame?

Ryan McNutt replied, deep brown.

Chairman Dinardo asked, should it be wood?

Ryan McNutt replied, we discussed wood. If maintenance is not keeping up with it, it is not going to look as nice or clean as the vinyl.

George Gatta stated, we brought it up to this height. 

Chairman Dinardo stated, the landscape and the nicer material for the door helps.

Mr. Marrelli stated, it almost looks like it is going into a courtyard.

Ryan McNutt stated, the other thing we added was more brick.  We increased the amount of brick along the edges and then on the base.  Before we had vinyl.

George Gatta stated, these are core units.

Chairman Dinardo asked, the three-dimensional elevation that we are seeing, the roof height is incorrect?

Ryan McNutt replied, that’s corrected.  This is deeper and this has come down so you don’t have that distance between the two gables.

Chairman Dinardo thinks the scale is a lot better.

George Gatta stated, we could not argue with you. You made valid comments.

Site Lighting

Ryan McNutt stated, this was approved at the Board of Appeals.  I brought it today.

Mr. Marrelli saw the photo metrics.

Chairman Dinardo stated, you have full cut off lights?

Ryan McNutt replied, yes. There’s only two. We are not lighting anything that’s not for the new area.  They will match.

Chairman Dinardo appreciated the detail.  That’s very nice.  Again, you have had great success with the owners. 

George Gatta agreed. They say what they are going to do. 

Chairman Dinardo stated, you are going to have a very nice project when you are completed.  You did a very nice job.  I think you have worked out everything we have asked you to do.  Does anyone have any other item they want to bring up?

There were no other questions.

DECISION:

Motion to approve as noted and discussed.

Mr. Miozzi, seconded by Mr. Tombazzi, made a motion to approve as noted and discussed.

Roll Call

Ayes: All
Nays: None

Motion Carried. Approved as discussed.


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ADJOURNMENT:

There being no further business, Mr. Klein, seconded by Mr. Miozzi, made a motion to adjourn the meeting.

Roll Call

Ayes: All
Nays: None

Motion Carried. Meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m.